Thursday, August 23, 2007

PouringReign, this one's for you...

The other day, my friend PouringReign and I were having a discussion on the girlychat regarding an sng he was playing and how there was a raise preflop and he couldn't believe someone would call with 4-6, flop a pair and an OESD and go all in, of course to bust him. Well, the basic setting was that he raised, there was another caller and the guy called from the BB. So, I said that that's not so ridiculous because he already had money in the pot and with two other players, it was a loose but not an insane call. Well, PR, here it is bro. This HH came up today and made me think of that discussion.

Full Tilt Poker Game #3340869917: Table Brooks - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:15:15 ET - 2007/08/23
Seat 1: luckyInsMan ($493.30)
Seat 2: ArkieBassMan ($443.25)
Seat 3: pokercomic ($522)
Seat 4: ram714 ($325.80)
Seat 5: RecessRampage ($292.90)
Seat 6: nwoodside04 ($149.70)
Seat 7: TheJamo ($243)
Seat 8: Shipitoverhere ($410.80)
Seat 9: nsewell4 ($409.40)
ram714 posts the small blind of $2
RecessRampage posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #3

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RecessRampage [3d 5h]
nwoodside04 folds
TheJamo raises to $12
Shipitoverhere calls $12
nsewell4 folds
luckyInsMan folds
ArkieBassMan calls $12
pokercomic calls $12
ram714 folds
RecessRampage calls $8

Ok, so this might be an instance where it's more of a no brainer to call but I will admit. Last year, I fold this here. Cuz I was a tight nit donk. Now, I don't even think twice about calling. I'm in the BB, 4 other players, $8 more for me to call. No brainer.

*** FLOP *** [4s 2s 6d]<--- gin!
RecessRampage checks
TheJamo bets $36
Shipitoverhere calls $36
ArkieBassMan folds
pokercomic folds
RecessRampage raises to $280.90, and is all in
TheJamo has 15 seconds left to act
TheJamo: what the hell??
TheJamo folds
pokercomic: spades
Shipitoverhere has 15 seconds left to act
Shipitoverhere has requested TIME
Shipitoverhere folds
Uncalled bet of $244.90 returned to RecessRampage
RecessRampage mucks
RecessRampage wins the pot ($167)

This is where I guess I made the mistake. I honestly thought that I would get one of them to call with this ridiculous overbet for value. Well, the thing was, I was already pot committed here considering my stack size and the pot size. There's approximately $130 in the pot before my bet and so one thought was to smooth call and build the pot. But with two spades, I wanted to bet enough to make it incorrect for them to call. Plus, if someone had an overpair, I wanted my shove to look like I was pushing with maybe two overs and a spade draw like pokercomic thought (btw, he has no business commenting during the hand esp if he's not in it). If I could get a call and win the pot, this woulda made a nice "overbet for value" post. But I'm perfectly ok with taking the pot down here instead of turning this into "Fuel's flopped straights are no good" post.

On a different note, I'm considering killing my RecessRampage account. I've tried a few times to get rakeback for my account but to no avail. I got the same response like NewinNov posted here. And based on a rakeback calculator at one of the sites, based on the amount I play and the stakes I play, I should be getting at least $350 each month in rakebacks. It kinda sucks because I've come to really like my account and since I really suck at coming up with names (whether it be the blog address, screenname, etc), my new challenge would be to figure out what the new name would be. But I think I could suck it up for an extra $350 each month. I don't know when I will do it... probably as soon as I can think of a name a new name. I'd like to start September with a new screenname... any suggestions are welcome.


bub said...

I can't remember if it's Ultimate Bet or Poker Stars but if someone is all in they disable chat until the hand is over. When I was reading the hand history I couldn't believe that guy jumped in with that comment. Good luck with the new name search. Maybe you could have a contest.

Fuel55 said...

OBFV would work here more often than not, so it is the right play.

With no callers at least you win!

Sia said...

I would have put you on a mid to high pocket pair on that hand. I can see that overbet working at times.....but either way, i think the analysis on whether to call with a garbage hand (i.e. low one gappers) is different when you're talking cash game v. tourney. I still think it was a garbage call by him (talking about my hand now)....and keep in flop (with my overpair) I bet around the pot size and then he came over top..... and then i came back over top all in. I mean, he certainly didn't think his low pair was good.....why come over top and commit yourself as opposed to just calling and waiting to see the next card. I was 70% after the flop. The turn card was gay. I hate poker.
i'm playing poker right now).
I hate poker.


Schaubs said...

Call yourself Elliott Yamin. lol JK.

Just come up with something simple and non-descript.

Matt said...

I'd hate to see the RecessRampage moniker go away, but I understand the reason. Maybe just a subtle variation, like ReecessRampage or something.

Or maybe DQBeaches? That'd be kinda sweet...

jamyhawk said...

I say you do the contest thing. Let your peers name you. Take suggestions for a week, then pick your fav 5 and let everyone vote for a week.

Could actually come up with something interesting, like: my35beatsyourAA


SubZero said...

By calling 36 you would take the pot up to 160 on the turn. Assuming a safe (non-spade non-pair) card falls, pushing then for 250 may cause you to get a call from an opponent who trips up or improves slightly, but for whom with only one card to come chasing (whether for a fullhouse or a flush) is still -EV.
I like to use this play on occasion as it looks deeply suspicious and is more likely to induce a call from non-thinking players (see dime-a-dozen).

lj said...

you should call yourself lol. :)