Wednesday, January 3, 2007

For poker players - What would you do?

Here's an interesting hand that came up when I was playing online... You are RecessRampage and you started the table with $200. And the following hand happens.

Full Tilt Poker Game #1528322921: Table Horizon Lake - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:05:14 ET - 2007/01/03
Seat 1: shipda_sherbert ($232.15)
Seat 2: shtcards007 ($118.50), is sitting out
Seat 3: bkpkr ($42.80)
Seat 4: playerplaz ($253)
Seat 5: joesxm ($200)
Seat 6: drdrillem ($195)
Seat 7: EddieTheEdge ($191.40)
Seat 8: RecessRampage ($240.65)
Seat 9: loloPOZZEDu ($228.30)
EddieTheEdge posts the small blind of $1
RecessRampage posts the big blind of $2
joesxm posts $2
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RecessRampage [Ah Ks]
loloPOZZEDu folds
shipda_sherbert folds
bkpkr raises to $9
playerplaz calls $9
joesxm folds
drdrillem folds
EddieTheEdge folds
RecessRampage calls $7
*** FLOP *** [3h 4h Ad]
RecessRampage checks
bkpkr bets $33.80, and is all in
playerplaz raises to $244, and is all in

What do you do?


Sia said...

You definitely call. Playerplaz was definitely trying to ensure that he was heads up for the $33.80 and obviouly didn't anticipate you having any sort of hand in the big blind. If anything, the all in play by playerplaz showed a good amount of weakness. I would have been more scared to call if he had come over top for $100 as opposed to all in. Hate to go in with just top pair with that kind of money but i can only assume that you were ahead post flop and could have only lost on a bad beat. I would probably have put him (playerplaz) on pocket 10's at best.

Alan said...

Well, for those that are actually curious. This is how it went down. After much deliberation which the one downside of online poker is that there isn't that much time, I laid down the hand primarily because of the two understandings I have about players online. 1) Generally, when a guy with a good amount of chips go all in, he/she has a hand. A pretty solid one. 2) I just didn't have enough invested to feel like I could throw my entire stack in the middle with TPTK (top pair/top kicker). It's one thing if we had been actively betting and I had like half my stack in there but really, the only money I had invested was $9 (of which $1 was a blind). So, I folded. Initial all-in (the short stack) showed pocket 8s, and the raiser? Shows 3-4 of clubs for two pair. GOOD FOLD on my part. Turn comes a 8 and a blank on the river helped double up the short stack. I would have lost my entire stack had I called.

I did consider the possibility of the guy doing that with AQ or maybe even AJ. But it was the all in that made it fishy. The funny thing is, instead of pushing all in, if he had raised and just doubled the all in, I definitely would have called and so he would have made up for some of the losses or he could have had all my money on the turn.

Anonymous said...

Testing. Testing. 123.

pete_linkroum said...

I'd agree with Sia, it's just bad poker to call a preflop raise to 4.5 times the big blind with anything that beats you in this case. Obviously that didn't stop this guy, but you'd expect people playing at a 1/2 table to have a pretty solid game. And you'd think if he did flop two pair or a set that he would want to try to suck you in with a hand so well disguised, not scare you out. I defintely would have called. Nice fold though, sometimes you just have to go on your gut.

Alan said...

One thing I did learn by playing online so much is that there are donkeys and unconventional players at every level no matter how much money. But one thing a lot of people have in common is that when they go all in, they have a very solid hand or a monster draw. Like, I could see someone pushing all in with 5h6h in this instance for a straight flush draw. The idea being, he wants everyone to fold but if someone does call, he's got 15 outs.