Wednesday, April 2, 2008

Possibly the last post from me this week...

In 6 hrs, I will be on the flight to Vegas. I guess I kinda kept this fairly quiet in the sense of, I really didn't hype it up on here. Well, there's really nothing to hype because I don't know how much poker I'll be able to play. Hopefully tons since I am just kinda tagging along to a birthday party of which I only know like 1 or 2 out of the whole group of 10+. Actually, what am I talking about. I'm a degenerate. When they go clubbing or something, I will probably end up at a table full of middle aged guys making $20 raises at a $1-3NL table... Damn... CAN'T WAIT!!!!

So anyways, before I head out, one more AK hand where it's not going my way. Having said that, I don't hate my play here... I would say this is fairly standard...

Full Tilt Poker Game #5873274307: Table Crockery (6 max) - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:26:26 ET - 2008/04/01
Seat 1: RecessRampage ($444) <--- BB
Seat 2: alldie83 ($406)
Seat 3: thelilbearbeeny ($946.30)
Seat 4: Jomibakkus7 ($632.50)
Seat 5: TheLiquidDream ($140.10)
Seat 6: Chipstars1 ($370) <--- SB

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RecessRampage [Ks Ac]
alldie83 has 15 seconds left to act
alldie83 folds
thelilbearbeeny folds
Jomibakkus7 folds
TheLiquidDream raises to $14 <--- from the button
Chipstars1 has 15 seconds left to act
Chipstars1 calls $12
RecessRampage raises to $56 <--- standard squeeze
TheLiquidDream folds
Chipstars1 raises to $370, and is all in
RecessRampage has 15 seconds left to act
RecessRampage has requested TIME

Of course, this is where it gets interesting. The SB played this very tricky where he smooth called a raise, possibly expecting a squeeze play, and when I obliged, he shoves. Of course, he could do this with AA or KK but I thought with those two hands, he would try to milk me by not quite going all in. His shove seems more indicative of wanting a fold so I thought maybe a middle pocket pair. Getting close to 1.5:1, I felt that this call was ok considering I was most likely flipping.

RecessRampage calls $314
Chipstars1 shows [Jc Jh]
RecessRampage shows [Ks Ac]
*** FLOP *** [4d 4h Qc]
*** TURN *** [4d 4h Qc] [4c]
*** RIVER *** [4d 4h Qc 4c] [Th]
Chipstars1 shows a full house, Fours full of Jacks
RecessRampage shows three of a kind, Fours
Chipstars1 wins the pot ($751) with a full house, Fours full of Jacks
RecessRampage adds $326

I actually thought that was very tricky of him to do that with JJ. Normally, JJ would reraise there instead of smooth calling... or so I thought. JJ was higher than what I expected to see but still didn't matter. I thought it was probably a flip, it was a flip and I didn't win. In looking at it, I don't really have a problem I don't think, even though I hate getting my money in bad. Any thoughts?

This next hand... I don't even know where to begin. The villain pretty much pwned me all night, reraising me a lot and basically taking pots away from me. I never got to showdown with this guy until this hand...

Full Tilt Poker Game #5874938527: Table Crockery (6 max) - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:38:32 ET - 2008/04/01
Seat 1: RecessRampage ($629.70) <--- SB
Seat 2: pelky33 ($400) <--- BB
Seat 3: bertkc ($925.40)
Seat 4: carpmentor ($421.10)
Seat 5: j0hnnyChann ($81.50)
Seat 6: Mash Spud ($417.70)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RecessRampage [Ac Qs]
bertkc raises to $16 <--- UTG
carpmentor has 15 seconds left to act
carpmentor folds
j0hnnyChann folds
Mash Spud folds
RecessRampage raises to $52
pelky33 folds
bertkc has 15 seconds left to act
bertkc calls $36

Ok, you might be wondering why I 3 bet this from SB against a guy who raised UTG. That's actually because I had a read. The 4x bet seemed to indicate weakness more often than not. Also, if I reraise an UTG raiser, it indicates a much stronger hand than AQ on my part. Admittedly, I was shocked when he called, knowing I'm gonna be OOP against a guy who's been pwning me all night (basically, I was getting to the point where I was avoiding playing pots with this guy - which I thought added to the fact that I had a strong hand... and AQ is definitely a strong enough hand).

*** FLOP *** [2s 8d Ad]
RecessRampage bets $80
bertkc calls $80

Pretty good flop for me. I really didn't put him on AK since I think he woulda 4 bet me. I also felt that he was still weak but I couldn't figure out the call. I thought maybe a diamond draw.

*** TURN *** [2s 8d Ad] [As]
RecessRampage has 15 seconds left to act
RecessRampage bets $200
bertkc has 15 seconds left to act
bertkc has requested TIME
bertkc calls $200

Now gets interesting. Another A hits the board so I am fairly certain I am ahead. The problem is, I don't know what he has but by betting out here and with the preflop action, it smells a lot less like AK and a lot more like KK where I'm glad to see the board pair. I still couldn't figure what he was calling me with though. Lesser ace? Diamond? Boat?

*** RIVER *** [2s 8d Ad As] [8c] <--- perfect card!!!

Best card I coulda hoped for (aside from another A). Now, unless I lose to quad eights, I basically am either tied or if he had 22 or something and slowplayed his boat, he just got counterfeited. There's no point in betting here.

RecessRampage checks
bertkc bets $593.40, and is all in <--- must be an A, please don't let it be 88.
RecessRampage calls $297.70, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $295.70 returned to bertkc

So, any thoughts on what he had? Another A? Another 8? Missed diamond draw? Counterfeited boat? Thoughts???

Here, I'll let you even think about it some more.

I never woulda guessed this in a million years.

*** SHOW DOWN ***
bertkc shows [3s 6s] two pair, Aces and Eights
RecessRampage shows [Ac Qs] a full house, Aces full of Eights
RecessRampage wins the pot ($1,260.40) with a full house, Aces full of Eights
bertkc adds $104.30

I mean... no, this is no April fool's joke... I don't even know what to say... Of course, if I have KK which he could realistically put me on, I would definitely fold to this river shove. I'm just so confused... he was already up a buy in and I felt that this was not a spot that he needed to be in. Now granted, since he's been pwning me all night, maybe he thought he could just outplay me... which he kinda did... I was saved by the cards. I don't even know how to counter this kind of aggression...

Alright, well that's it from me... man, if I post from Vegas... ah, hell... it's possible. We all know how much of a degenerate I am... good luck all and Don, Chad, hopefully I'll see you guys soon!


Loretta8 said...

lol at the double float

and no way can you fold AK there imo

Schaubs said...


Fuel55 said...

Bertkc is a total idiot - I cant believe you dont have pages of notes on him.

Gnome said...

As a rule of thumb for myself, I view AQ as a 3-betting hand in most situations.
The smooth call-reraise with JJ is pretty odd. I've seen it much more with AA or KK.

Klopzi said...

Hand 1 looks ok to me. I've made a similar play from the SB when I'd seen the BB make quite a few squeeze plays over the course of the session. As for getting you money in bad, you're getting the right price to make the call, assuming you're pretty sure that you're not gonna see AA/KK from your opponent (which is pretty unlikely).

Second hand: nice! But, for what it's worth, I play 36s the same way.

Eric a.k.a. Bone Daddy said...

i don't mind the bluff there, if the board DID NOT playout, that nothing beats a bare ace. Just horrid.

SubZero said...

Don't know if I'd call the first hand with AK when my opponent is allin and I've only invested $50. I find I get the best results when I play lots of pots postflop against my opponents, not getting it in preflop.
You're a good player, and I think you should wait for a better spot than hoping for a coinflip...

Donnie Peters said...

I don't like villain's play in the first hand. I just don't feel like JJ is strong enough for just a call from the SB. Even if he induces a squeeze or the BB shoves with a good hand, he is going to be behind or racing against a call to his shove. Also, he just calls OOP and now has to play JJ OOP against a PF raiser. Not sure I'd want to do this and I'd rather pop it up.

Question... what do you do on this hand if the SB reraises PF?

Second hand is great. You played it pretty much perfectly. AQ plays decently well OOP and you showed strength with it PF. The river check is just great. If you bet, villain is only calling with a chop IMO or jamming. If he has 88 you're in trouble, but that is unlikely because I feel like he would have raised the flop with the flush draw there or raised the turn IMO. On the river, you might as well check to induce a bluff. Villain is folding anything marginal here and will only win by firing at the pot. I think he waited too long on his float and was committed on the river to put all his money in given his line.