Wednesday, August 27, 2008

Revisiting tricky spots

So I presented a few tricky spots yesterday where I wasn't sure what the best line was. On Hand 1, a lot of you indicated folding or check calling... in looking back, I do agree that that was probably best, mainly because there aren't any hands that would realistically call me with hands that are worse than mine. But... being the 6 max aggro monkey that I am, I ended up jamming in Hand 1.

Full Ring - 2-4NL, relevant stacks
Villain ($486.90)
Hero ($433)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ah Kh]
2 folds
Hero raises to $14
1 fold
Villain calls $14 from CO
Button and both blinds fold

*** FLOP *** [Kc 5c 5d]
Hero bets $24
Villain calls $24

*** TURN *** [Kc 5c 5d] [Th]
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero bets $65
Villain raises to $130
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero has requested TIME
Hero ???

I jammed here, got instacalled by KK. That was one hand I DID NOT expect to see. Again, I think most of you had it right. Folding or even check calling would have saved me money.

Hand #2

Another full ring table 2-4NL (7 players in hand)
Relevant stacks:

Villain ($253.40) <--- BB
Hero ($416)

One additional info is that villain calls A LOT of hands preflop. I don't have the stats with me but his VP$IP was like 35-40%.

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RecessRampage [Jc Tc]
Hero raises to $14
5 folds
Villain calls $10

*** FLOP *** [7s Qs Jh]
Villain checks
Hero bets $22
Villain calls $22

*** TURN *** [7s Qs Jh] [Qd]
Villain has 15 seconds left to act
Villain bets $44
Hero calls $44

*** RIVER *** [7s Qs Jh Qd] [Kc]
Villain bets $162
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero has requested TIME
Hero ???

I ended up making a hero call here. I didn't like my hand enough to make a raise on the turn so I called to keep the pot small. On the river, I felt that he either had T9 that got there or it's a missed flush draw and I have seen him take stabs like that... I mean you kinda have to if you're a loose player... He flips over Q9 and I lose another pot. I was shocked to see a Q in his hand.

See, but then hands like this happen where I kinda hate the spot I'm in and yet I make a call based on the fact that the sequence doesn't make sense and I turn out to be right...

6 max - 2-4NL

Seat 1: tturquoise ($923.10)
Seat 2: SkeetOnQQ ($533)
Seat 3: RecessRampage ($402) <--- SB
Seat 4: Mano Nera ($1,167.95) <--- BB
Seat 5: TooCool4Skool ($613)
Seat 6: slypigdave ($790.50)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qh Jc]
3 folds
SkeetOnQQ raises to $12 <--- button
RecessRampage raises to $40 <--- SB
Mano Nera calls $36 <--- uh oh
SkeetOnQQ calls $28 <--- adlfkjadklfjljsdfjakljd

*** FLOP *** [6s 5h Jd]
RecessRampage checks
Mano Nera checks
SkeetOnQQ has 15 seconds left to act
SkeetOnQQ bets $35
RecessRampage calls $35
Mano Nera folds

With two players calling my reraise, I got scared so I checked... Mano Nera must have had AK?

*** TURN *** [6s 5h Jd] [9d]
RecessRampage checks
SkeetOnQQ checks

*** RIVER *** [6s 5h Jd 9d] [5c]
RecessRampage checks
SkeetOnQQ bets $100
RecessRampage has 15 seconds left to act
RecessRampage has requested TIME
RecessRampage ???

See, here's where I got confused. But then this board is kinda terrible because now, there are so many hands that would beat me and so few hands that I beat. I mean he smooth called a reraise so he must have a decent hand. But then I thought QQ-AA would have repopped since those are not hands you want to see a 3 way flop with. Middle pocket pairs like 55, 66, 99 all hit the sets but then I thought there's now way a hand like that would check the turn especially after I called the flop bet. Then he fires out a bet on the river? This made no sense. If he had a hand like AJ, he would certainly check on a board like this against a reraiser since the only hand that would realistically call him is a hand that beats his. So, in this instance, I thought it was more often a bluff, thought maybe he has AK (and didn't want to jam preflop into two guys, one of which who smooth called a reraise) so I called.

He flipped over J8 sooted and so I took this pot.

Weird weird spot...

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