Sunday, November 25, 2007

Back to my bread and butter...

Before I start, my new TV kicks ass. I have not watched any DVDs or anything so I am only basing this on the HD channels from Comcast but still, it is pretty freakin amazing. Lining up at 4:30am was totally worth it!

Alright, having said that, here are some HHs... The first one, I would definitely love to get some feedback on.

Full Tilt Poker Game #4287888542: Table Shinnecock Hills - $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:39:53 ET - 2007/11/24
Seat 1: tss22 ($180)
Seat 2: RecessRampage ($1,099.75)
Seat 3: PiSigma ($2,237.75)
Seat 4: JPhil007 ($1,374)
Seat 5: nickgolf328 ($2,214)
Seat 6: bordos ($284.75)
Seat 7: sixhigh1 ($1,671.60)
Seat 8: FoldTOcash ($1,000)
Seat 9: Lincoln03 ($206)
tss22 posts the small blind of $5
RecessRampage posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RecessRampage [As Kc]
PiSigma folds
JPhil007 folds
nickgolf328 folds
bordos calls $10
sixhigh1 raises to $45
FoldTOcash folds
Lincoln03 folds
tss22 folds
RecessRampage raises to $140
bordos folds
sixhigh1 has 15 seconds left to act
sixhigh1 calls $95

The villain here was a fairly loose player and since I was in the BB, I will be OOP throughout the hand so I wanted to isolate him/take it down here so I made the reraise.

*** FLOP *** [Ac Qh 8d]
RecessRampage has 15 seconds left to act
RecessRampage bets $210
sixhigh1 calls $210

The flop was obviously a very good one for me except one thing I was worried about was an AQ or 88.

*** TURN *** [Ac Qh 8d] [5h]
RecessRampage has 15 seconds left to act
RecessRampage checks
sixhigh1 checks

I thought about betting here but I only have $700 remaining. I didn't necessarily want to commit my stack with TPTK so I wanted to see what my opponent would do. Betting here would not be a bad idea. As a matter of fact, now that I am looking at this, maybe checking here is too weak?

*** RIVER *** [Ac Qh 8d 5h] [9s]
RecessRampage checks
sixhigh1 checks

On this river, I felt like there was no point in me betting. The only hand that would call me would be a hand that beats me (unless he would call with AJ but that doesn't really make sense considering the preflop action - the opponent is not an idiot). So, at the very least, if he didn't have a hand, maybe he would bet out. I was prepared to make the call if he bet, based on how the hand progressed.

*** SHOW DOWN ***
RecessRampage shows [As Kc] a pair of Aces
sixhigh1 mucks [Qs Jh]
RecessRampage wins the pot ($712) with a pair of Aces

So the fact that he had QJ did surprise me a little considering that's totally within the realm of something he could be dominated with. Nonetheless, I wondered if not betting out on the river was bad. Actually, my opinion is that it was bad. I should have bet out like $250 on the river. He might still fold but getting that kinda pot odds, it would be hard not to call. What do you guys think about the check on the turn? I think it's passable but definitely falls in a weakish territory.

Now on this following hand, it's not much of a hand analysis. But I wanted to justify my call before I made the actual call since I realize AQ is NOT a great hand to CALL an all-in with...

Full Tilt Poker Game #4287914178: Table Padre Field - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:42:34 ET - 2007/11/24

Full ring game (only relevant parties shown for ease of navigation)

Seat 3: RecessRampage ($524.20)
Seat 9: bushido55 ($124.40) <--- cutoff
montymole posts the small blind of $2
RecessRampage posts the big blind of $4

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RecessRampage [Qc As]
5 players fold
bushido55 calls $4
Button and SB fold
RecessRampage raises to $14
bushido55 has 15 seconds left to act
bushido55 raises to $124.40, and is all in
RecessRampage has 15 seconds left to act
RecessRampage has requested TIME

So here's the thing... There's a guy in the CO who limps in and he's already short stacked. The pot has $30 and it's $110 more for me to call (since I raised and he's coming over the top). So, for a while, I had to think about what he would do this with. AA or KK? Possibly. But based on my observation, he was not a crafty player. So, I actually thought about this a lot longer than I probably needed to and I busted out with this gem...

RecessRampage: I'm guessing you have low pp
RecessRampage calls $110.40
bushido55 shows [2h 2d] <--- just like I called it
RecessRampage shows [Qc As]
*** FLOP *** [Kh Ah 5c] <--- FTP likes players that can call out hands
*** TURN *** [Kh Ah 5c] [4c]
*** RIVER *** [Kh Ah 5c 4c] [6c]
RecessRampage: I was right <--- rubbing it in
bushido55 shows a pair of Twos
RecessRampage shows a pair of Aces
RecessRampage wins the pot ($247.80) with a pair of Aces
bushido55 is sitting out

As long as you can justify it, it makes a donkey call alright. I hope everyone had a great weekend and for a lot of you, I will see you in a little over a week in Vegas!


SubZero said...

I got in a similar situation when I managed to call an allin preflop w AJs against ATs. My 'advisor' told me he thought it was a crazy call, but when my opponent shoved I knew he was most likely holding AXs (where X was lower than my J) where I was a big favourite, or a at best a small PP, where I'd be just behind.
The question is are you happy with a probable slight edge when playing for their stack, or do you want to wait for a bigger one? Against a donkey, I'll take a slight edge now. Who knows when (and to whom) they might bust while you wait for a big edge?

Gnome said...

I like the check on the turn and value bet on the river.
But even checking both streets like you did will often induce a bluff on the river by a hand that wouldn't have called a value bet.

Mike Maloney said...

On the first hand, you're probably right that some kind of bet on the river might have optimized your profits. I think the check by him on the turn makes him look very weak, and the river was very harmless, so it would seem to me that you were good. And I don't mind the check on the turn, I think the fact that he checked also told you a lot about where he stood.

I probably don't make that call, even if I knew he has a lower PP. I'm basically giving about even odds to call, and I'm calling off a quarter of my stack for a coinflip. I dunno, just doesn't seem like a great situation.

Alan aka RecessRampage said...

The main reason I made the call on the second hand was because a) I knew he had a lower pocket pair (and honestly, I would've said 6s or lower - that's how narrow of a range I could put him in) and there's already $30 in the pot (half of which was MY money). If I didn't raise or if I weren't in the hand to begin with, i wouldn't have called. But with my money already out there, the odds dictate that I call where I'm a slight dog in the flip but the money is already out there. Plus, I don't want to be the guy that raises from OOP and then folds to a reraise that screams of a low pocket pair. I'll just get run over. I'd rather people think I'm a calling station or a guy who can't fold high cards so I know that when they bet into me next time, it's not because they are bluffing but because they are trying to get more money out of me.

lucko said...

What happened to your preflop read in the first hand? You have a read on him as being a loose player, but then give him a ton of credit on all the other streets.

I think you should play this to get it all in on the turn, which is two 87% of pot bets, or $255 on the flop and push the turn.

Its not something I love doing with just TPTK, but in a reraised pot vs a loose player, stacking off for a buy-in here is something I am willing to do.

かず said...



tyke said...

I agree with かず

Shrike said...

You already know you missed a value bet in hand #1. Hand #2 is a marginal situation which could go either way, but you knew that already too.

Klopzi said...

Another comment that won't be read...

Since Villain is slightly loose, I think you're well justified to bet the pot on the flop, bet the turn, and jam the river. The pre-flop pot is huge and represents a third of your remaining stack.

Hand #2 is pretty weak but I've done the same myself. The problem is that your hand doesn't look good against any range of hands that he'd limp/re-raise all-in with. Let's give Villain a generous range of hands and say that he'd push with {AA - 22, AK-AT}. You're still behind and not really getting odds to call the push.

But as I said earlier, I've called with AQ in that same the $25 NL tables...cuz I'm a donkey...