Thursday, July 23, 2009

Are you dating or are you paying for a hooker?

This morning, on the radio, I heard an interesting discussion. Apparently, this one guy who works at the radio station heard of an intriguing thing - there are people offering to pay for whatever the person's needs are in exchange of that person living in the house with them and "caring" for them whenever they needed care. Essentially, it was like a live-in maid who would also provide services that are beyond household chores for the right price.

Example they gave was let's say there is an attractive girl who needs to pay for her college tuition (wow, sounds a lot like the workers at the rhino working to "put themselves through law school"). The guy would pay for her college tuition. Of course, in exchange, she would take care of certain household chores but more importantly take care of him when he needed taken care of. He confirmed on the radio that "taking care of him" would entail what most listeners are imagining and that it wasn't completely ok to go into details on the radio.

The female hosts and some female listeners were absolutely disgusted by this idea. They thought he was a pig and that basically he was paying for a hooker. Of course, there were mixed thoughts on this one and there were girls that called in and said if this guy was decent looking, then something can be arranged.

I thought it was interesting, mainly because of a lot of the female arguments. They thought it was ridiculous that a girl had to put out in exchange for some fee (in this example, the tuition). They thought there's no difference between that and a guy going to a dark corner, hiring some prostitute, and doing it in the back alley (or the hotel room or whatever). The funny thing is, while all these feminists errrrr, I mean ladies were ranting about how disgusting this was, I started thinking how is this that different from dating?

Ok, yeah, I get that most people would classify it differently but is it really as different as people think it is? Hell, paying for hooker is probably like getting a girl drunk for a one night stand. Are all college girls considered hookers? Here's my thought. These ladies were all pissed off because of the notion that a guy paying for her needs is receiving sex in exchange. What do you think guys are doing when they are offering shots to women? Being nice just to be nice? Or being nice to get into their pants? If your answer is because the guy is nice, then wow... I mean, wow. How old are you, 12?

Let's see. You meet a girl, you take her out to dinner. You wine and dine her, share some stories, share some laughs, you take her home and give her a goodnight kiss. You even opened the car door for her and you were a perfect gentleman throughout the night. You don't get anything more than a good night kiss but all the guys reading this knows that it's just a set up to the next date where you're obviously going to go further. So let's see, what exactly happened here? You provided the girl what she needs (free dinner, free drinks, companionship, sense of humor, etc) so that you can get what you want ("taken care of"). I mean if the live-in maid concept is like prostitution, is dating all that different???

Yeah, yeah, I get that there are plenty of exceptions and I'm not saying that any girl in a relationship is a hooker. It's actually the complete opposite. I'm arguing that the live-in maid situation is NOT the same as having a prostitute. I mean I never had a hooker but I'm guessing the transaction goes something along the lines of you negotiate, you pay, and you have sex. She walks out the door, both getting what you wanted. Strictly business, right? In the live-in maid situation, it would be different wouldn't it? There doesn't have to be any chemistry but there needs to be some level of getting along because otherwise, it would just be annoying to live with someone and to pay for their shit if you can't hold a decent conversation. That sounds a lot more like dating, doesn't it?

I don't know, what do you all think? Am I totally off the mark? Am I a total pig? If I am, I'm ok with it... I'm not Tucker Max and I'm not trying to use this blog to get laid.


Trebek said...

Great Post - Great Idea and this will definetly lead to some great comments (on and off the blog).

In some instances this (paying for "needs" and cleaning) isn't any different then alot of relationships. The only difference is that both parties know what is going...and aren't lying to each other about it. Maybe this "relationship" leads to something more (marriage)...but thats up to both parties.

Much better then when a loser guy thinks he has a real relationship and the girl totally plays him.

Keep the posts coming.

Roppongi bitch said...

Let me tell you one big fact from a matured woman's point of view. There are only two kinds of relationships between men and women. The one where we feel so willing to make out without any charge, and the other where we feel very unwilling to without appropriate compensation. So a female can be a sweet lover and a hooker, depending on quality of a male. If you can have a quality sex without paying, there's love between two of you. If it costs you some, you are actually buying it. It has nothing to do with love.

smokkee said...

college girls are the cheapest "hookers" you'll ever meet.

Trebek said...

Roppongi Bitch - Thanks for the instight.

So I had this conversation with some friends this weekend, and someone put it back on me.

How much would it take for you to be the giril in this scenario? (I'm a guy) How much money would someone have to pay me a week to "service" them.

At $100,000 a year are you thinking about it...what about half that ($50K), what about $200 a week, etc.

SubZero said...

Great post AL, so glad I read it. It is of course a debate with no clear moral/ethical 'winner'; after all, it is an arrangement between 2 lucid and consenting adults. Most arrangements with prostitutes take place with at least one person under the influence, so in that sense it is above that level at the least.

Personally (maybe controversially), I don't see it as entirely removed from the concept of marriage in the sharing of life experiences and worldly assets, financial or otherwise. Just so happens that the parties involved each get looked after in separate (but commensurate) ways.